Tragic Tuesday: Calvary Chapel’s Pastor’s Perspective Counsel that Roman Catholic Confirmation is Not Harmful
Commentary and Transcription by Chris Lawson (February 28, 2014)

 

TRAGIC TUESDAY:

Calvary Chapel’s Brian Broderson & Don Stewart Give Pastor’s Perspective

Counsel that Roman Catholic Confirmation is Not Harmful

February 2014

Commentary and Transcription by Chris Lawson

(February 28, 2014)

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Catechism of The Catholic Church

“Confirmation, like Baptism, imprints a spiritual mark or indelible character on the Christian's soul...”

- Catechism of the Catholic Church #1317

“The imposition of hands is rightly recognized by the Catholic tradition as the origin of the sacrament of Confirmation...”  

- Catechism of the Catholic Church #1288

“For by the sacrament of Confirmation, [the baptized] are more perfectly bound to the Church...”

- Catechism of the Catholic Church #1285


The Holy Bible

“For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men...Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.” Mark 7:8-9, KJV

“Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.” – Galatians 5:1

“A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.”Galatians 5:9


Roman Catholicism (RCC Catechism)

“Baptism, the Eucharist, and the sacrament of Confirmation together constitute the ‘sacraments of Christian initiation,’ whose unity must be safeguarded. It must be explained to the faithful that the reception of the sacrament of Confirmation is necessary for the completion of baptismal grace. For ‘by the sacrament of Confirmation, (the baptized) are more perfectly bound to the Church and are enriched with a special strength of the Holy Spirit. Hence they are, as true witnesses of Christ, more strictly obliged to spread and defend the [Roman Catholic] faith word and deed.’”

- Catechism of the Catholic Church #1285 (Vatican Archives, Online text); U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (U.S. Conference, Online text)

The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent 

“If anyone says that the sacraments of the New Law [Catholic rituals] are not necessary for salvation but men obtain from God through faith alone the grace of justification, let him be anathema.”

- H J Schroeder, trans., The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent (Tan Books and Publishers, Inc., 1978), Seventh Session, Canons on the Sacraments in General, Can 4.


Calvary Chapel (Pastors Perspective)

BRIAN BRODERSON: --Confirmation, um what happens in Confirmation is at the age you know twelve, thirteen...you know, in the Catholic Church of course people are baptized as infants, and so they're trusting that you know you were baptized as an infant...but this is now a, a time where you can sort of, um, on your own say “Yes I want to be a Catholic,”... Um, I wouldn't say that there's anything harmful about somebody going through something like this….Well that's it Don, you know, the, the problem is of course this [Roman Catholicism] is just a religion you know, and it’s a ritual for most people….I mean there are a few people that take it more seriously and so forth….I think um, you know if your daughter wanted to do it then I would say "let her do it, it's not going to hurt her," um you know God can use these things…”

DON STEWART: --Well, Chris, you know, you'll need wisdom there, we'll ask the Lord to give you some wisdom on that, but uh, again like, like Brian said, if she does go through with it there's nothing wrong with doing something like that, as long as you are, ya know telling her that that's, her baptism didn't save her she needs that personal relationship with Christ, that is the important thing.

- Brian Broderson & Don Stewart, Pastors Perspective, “Terrific Tuesday,” KWVE 107.9, February 11, 2014 (iTunes, YouTube, & Transcript)


Introduction

The material below these introductory comments has been meticulously transcribed from the February 11, 2014 “Terrific Tuesday” Pastor's Perspective KWVE Radio program. The program included Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa's Pastor Brian Broderson and Calvary Chapel Pastors Perspective radio show host Don Stewart.

In this particular program, Brian Broderson and Don Stewart gave disturbing counsel. Both were in full agreement with each other as the audio file and transcript and video show. Some good counsel was first given to direct an individual (and wife) to not force their teenage daughter to do something spiritually that she didn’t want to do. But then, bad “counsel” was given to the same concerned and confused parent, regarding Roman Catholic Confirmation not being harmful. Even though Broderson clearly clarified that such a ceremony would include the participant (teenager) saying, “Yes, I want to be a Roman Catholic,” Broderson and Stewart were in agreement that it would not be harmful.

All Calvary Chapel pastors and leaders should be made aware of what was said, in context, so that they will know just what type of “counsel” may be found when people click on Calvary Chapel church websites that link and direct visitors to the KWVE 107.9 Pastor’s Perspective radio program.

As one reads through the transcript below, one must wonder just how confused the phone-in caller into the Pastor’s Perspective program (father of teenager; husband of Roman Catholic wife) now is, after the counsel he was given.

This man sincerely sought biblical and pastoral counsel to help him through the confusion of what he was facing, not counsel that Roman Catholic Confirmation is not harmful. The phone-in caller knows better, he left the Roman Catholic Church and is still confused about it.

In the following transcribed paragraphs, the italicized text represents the verbal emphasis heard during the radio program. The bold text is for added emphasis here. [See full transcript below.]

BRODERSON: Confirmation, um what happens in Confirmation is at the age you know twelve, thirteen, which is where your daughter's at, um, you know, in the Catholic Church of course people are baptized as infants, and so they're trusting that you know you were baptized as an infant, your parents and of course there you have godparents as well they were responsible to kind of give you an upbringing in the faith, and then when you reach the age of twelve or thirteen you get confirmed, this is where you sort of, you know, uh you didn't have any power over your baptism when you were a baby but this is now a, a time where you can sort of, um, on your own say "Yes I want to be a Catholic" and the idea too is that this is the, the Holy Spirit um according to their theology, the Holy Spirit is you know Confirming you in your faith, at this time.

So, um, you know all of these things are obviously complicated in the fact that your wife, um, you know apparently is remaining a Catholic and, and wants her, her daughter to be that, and then of course just the Catholic view of the whole thing. Um, I wouldn't say that there's anything harmful about somebody going through something like this, I don't think it would be something that you just absolutely no way could not do this and remain in good standing with Jesus, I don't think that that would be an issue there, um, it, it sounds more like it is just a, a bit of a conflict, you know, a family conflict, a conflict between you and your wife and different, different opinions about, um, how to go forward with your child, so, uh, I don't know...….Well that's it Don, you know, the, the problem is of course this [Roman Catholicism] is just a religion you know, and it’s a ritual for most people….I mean there are a few people that take it more seriously and so forth, but it is a ritual and um most people are doing it because they are being forced to do it by their parents, quite frankly….I think um, you know if your daughter wanted to do it then I would say “let her do it, it's not going to hurt her,” um you know God can use these things…”.[1]

Don Stewart, in full agreement, also gave the go ahead for the teenager being Confirmed as a Roman Catholic. He emphasized his own agreement with Brian Broderson that this would “not be harmful” as long as she has “that personal relationship with Jesus Christ.”

Do they mean, like a “born-again” Ecumenical ‘New Evangelization’ Roman Catholic who has “a relationship with Jesus” as the Roman Catholic Church defines Jesus, or as the Bible defines Jesus?

There are no warnings here at all about Rome’s false gospel, Rome’s dangerous teaching on Confirmation and Rome’s false Christ – the Eucharistic Jesus. Furthermore, Broderson and Stewart did not mention one single Bible verse to help this phone-in caller (and his wife and daughter) escape the clutches of Roman Catholic heresy and influence.

Don Stewart is recognized as one of Calvary Chapel's long time "defenders of the faith." Don simply followed up Brian Broderson's counsel with the following incredulous statement. Note here again the italicized text for emphasis during the radio program, and the boldface text for emphasis here:

STEWART:Well, Chris, you know, you'll need wisdom there, we'll ask the Lord to give you some wisdom on that, but uh, again like, like Brian said, if she does go through with it there's nothing wrong with doing something like that,as long as you are, ya know telling her that that's, her baptism didn't save her she needs that personal relationship with Christ, that is the important thing.[2]

Just before they moved on to the next phone-in caller, Broderson followed up Stewart’s comments this way:

BRODERSON: Right, right.[3]

“Right, right”? Really? This is coming from Calvary Chapel pastors? So it’s now okay, according to these pastors, to declare, “I want to be a Roman Catholic,” just as long as you have “that personal relationship with Christ” and understand that baptism doesn’t save us? How utterly confusing this must have been for the desperate phone-in caller who fled the Roman Catholic Church.

Stated here again for sobering emphasis, Brian Broderson and Don Stewart have publicly stated on live radio that it is not harmful to go through a Roman Catholic Confirmation service and say, “I want to be a Roman Catholic.” That's what they said.

And again, Don Stewart said there is nothing wrong with it. “[L] ike Brian said, if she does go through with it there's nothing wrong with doing something like that.”

You will have noticed as you read the transcript above, that Don Stewart pads the whole Confirmation counsel thing to make it sound more biblical. He said, “…as long as you are, ya know telling her that that's, her baptism didn't save her she needs that personal relationship with Christ, that is the important thing.”

“That is the important thing”? Well what about the Roman Catholic Confirmation thing? Is that not important to a Roman Catholic and the Vatican? Of course it is! The Vatican website declares:

1285Baptism, the Eucharist, and the sacrament of Confirmation together constitute the "sacraments of Christian initiation," whose unity must be safeguarded. It must be explained to the faithful that the reception of the sacrament of Confirmation is necessary for the completion of baptismal grace.[4]

What About Biblical Separation?

With the counsel that Brian Broderson and Don Stewart gave, listeners could wrongly conclude, “Gee, I can be a born-again Christian and continue on in Roman Catholic doctrine and practice. Do not authoritative Roman Catholic documents state that Roman Catholic Confirmation takes people further into heretical teachings on the “completion of baptismal grace” and “by the sacrament of Confirmation, [the baptized] are more perfectly bound to the [Roman Catholic] Church.”[5] Sure they do! Why then do these pastors give this counsel? Should they be telling these people to separate from this false doctrine?

For many years Brian Broderson and Don Stewart have taught from the Bible and they do clearly understand Christian apologetics and the dangers of Roman Catholicism’s false gospel. In light of this, it seems very odd that they would give such warped counsel to a confused and distraught former Roman Catholic who is now attending Jack Hibbs’ Calvary Chapel Chino Hills fellowship.

At Jack Hibbs’ church they would learn the following principle from Scripture:

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them [be keeping a watchful eye ever open for those] which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them [be turning away from them]. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches [smooth and plausible address which simulates goodness, and with polished eulogies] deceive the hearts of the simple [are leading astray the innocent]. For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple [pure ones] concerning [with reference to] evil. And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen. (Romans 16:17-21)

On second thought, maybe being at Jack Hibbs’ church isn’t the wisest thing either. Jack Hibbs has shown clearly that he has no problem at all with hosting Jerry Boykin at several Calvary Chapel Chino Hills conferences.[6] We know this to be fact because after repeated attempts to contact Hibbs directly, and with ample documentation provided to his personal staff, delineating Boykin’s involvement with false teachers, Hibbs went ahead and hosted Boykin. Hibbs even brought in Chuck Smith at the last minute to take his own place in the pulpit on Sunday morning. This all strangely occurred just after our documentation was sent to Hibbs’ personal church staff and our personal phone calls were received.

Interestingly, Jack Hibbs and Jerry Boykin will be speaking again this year, although this time it will be at the Watchman On The Wall 2014 National Briefing (May 21-23, 2014), at the Hyatt Regency Capitol Hill, in Washington, D.C.  Hibbs and Boykin will speak at the event along with author Jonathan Cahn and TBN/GOD TV Word Faith teacher Joyce Meyer. Jonathan Cahn’s book The Harbinger met its own harbinger this past year as it could not tread water in light of extensive book reviews and sound biblical refutations by Christian apologists, discernment ministries and pastors such as Gary Gilley, Berit Kjos, T.A. McMahon, Larry DeBruyn, Mark Dinsmore, Ken Silva, Chris Rosebrough, Lighthouse Trails, Mike Oppenheimer, David James and Danny Isom, and more. Although Joyce Meyer’s false teachings abound and Cahn’s book has been shown to very problematic, Boykin and Hibbs will join them for the conference, at least that is what the WatchmenPastors.Org Events page shows (www.watchmenpastors.org). So much for biblical separation.

Regarding Jerry Boykin being hosted at Jack Hibbs’ fellowship, biblical separation in Calvary Chapel appears to be at an all-time low! Numerous Calvary Chapel’s have hosted Boykin, regardless of the fact that Jerry Boykin[7] has worked together for years[8] with Rick Joyner. Rick Joyner’s teachings entail an endless supply of false prophecy[9] and rife endorsements of false teachers. Boykin still works together with Joyner and Joyner’s Dominionist false teaching agenda, through The Oak Initiative and Joyner’s Morning Star Ministries. Jerry Boykin and Rick Joyner also serve together as Knights Hospitallers.[10] Boykin’s and Joyner’s names are still listed on the Knights Hospitallers website - The Knights Hospitallers of the Sovereign Order of St. John of Jerusalem Knights of Malta – The Ecumenical Order.[11] That’s right, “The Ecumenical Order.”

Jerry Boykin serves in leadership for the Knights of Malta as Grand Chancellor and is listed on the Knights Hospitallers website as “H.E. Chev. Lt. Gen William G. Boykin (U.S. Army, Ret.) GCSJ.” Rick Joyner is listed there too as he serves as “Prelate” and is listed as “H.E. Chev. Rev. Rick Joyner, GCSJ, Grand Prior of the Carolinas, USA.”[12]

Imagine that, a representative from the world renowned philanthropic Knights of Malta “Ecumenical Order,” speaking at numerous Calvary Chapel churches and Calvary Chapel leadership conferences.[13] The Calvary Chapel Association allows this! But this is all beside the point; we must now take a closer look at what Roman Catholic Confirmation really is.

Vatican Teaching on Confirmation

The following is a brief summary of what Roman Catholicism teaches on Confirmation. Here is the introduction to the Vatican's own teaching on Confirmation, which is strictly Roman Catholic. This comes straight from the Vatican's own website:

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

PART TWO

THE CELEBRATION OF THE CHRISTIAN MYSTERY

SECTION TWO

THE SEVEN SACRAMENTS OF THE CHURCH

CHAPTER ONE

THE SACRAMENTS OF CHRISTIAN INITIATION

ARTICLE 2

THE SACRAMENT OF CONFIRMATION

1285Baptism, the Eucharist, and the sacrament of Confirmation together constitute the ‘sacraments of Christian initiation,’ whose unity must be safeguarded. It must be explained to the faithful that the reception of the sacrament of Confirmation is necessary for the completion of baptismal grace.89 For ‘by the sacrament of Confirmation, [the baptized] are more perfectly bound to the Church and are enriched with a special strength of the Holy Spirit. Hence they are, as true witnesses of Christ, more strictly obliged to spread and defend the faith word and deed.’90  [14]

A qualitatively different Jesus, different spirit and different gospel

For those that are not aware, Roman Catholicism’s “Jesus” is a different Jesus altogether than the biblical Jesus of Nazareth.[15] Roman Catholicism’s “Jesus” is mystically made into a wafer and eaten, body, blood, soul and divinity(i.e, The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist).[16] This is done through the Roman Catholic Mass. Jesus the true Messiah (Christ) warned about false christs, as did Paul the Apostle:

Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many....For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. (-Jesus, Matthew 24:4-5, 24 KJV)

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him [i.e., “you may well put up with it!”]. (-Paul, 2 Corinthians 11:4)

Roman Catholic Confirmation is based upon a qualitatively different “Jesus,” a qualitatively different “spirit” and a qualitatively different “gospel.”

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another [qualitatively different] gospel: Which is not another [of the same kind]; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other [qualitatively different] gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other [qualitatively different] gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:6-9)

In actuality, the Roman Catholic gospel is no gospel at all; it is a qualitatively different gospel altogether. As such, it is bad news - it is a false gospel, a mere sham, a counterfeit. History shows that Roman Catholicism is a pagan works-based system of salvation that is wrapped in Christian trappings and blasphemous false teachings. It even has countless thousands of counterfeit ministers (Popes, Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, etc.) that hold Mary in high esteem in varying ways as “Mary: Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate.”[17] Fr. William G. Most has compiled an extensive listing from authoritative Roman Catholic Popes and Encyclicals on the Church’s Teaching on Mary as Mediatrix of (All) Graces.[18]

It follows therefore that Roman Catholic Confirmation, as quoted above, is one more perversion of biblical grace that is based on a system of pseudo-Christian lies.

Considering the following, one wonders how Brian Broderson and Don Stewart can say that Roman Catholic Confirmation is not harmful:

  • “Completion of baptismal grace”?
  • “[M] ore perfectly bound to the [Roman Catholic] Church”?
  • “[E] nriched with a special strength of the Holy Spirit [Roman Catholicism’s version]”?
  • “[T] rue witnesses of [Roman Catholicism’s blasphemous Eucharistic] Christ”?
  • “[M] ore strictly obliged to spread and defend the faith word and deed [of Roman Catholicism]”?[19]

If one wants to fully understand the Vatican's extensive teaching on the works-based Confirmation initiation Holy Spirit reception ceremony, it can be read on the Vatican’s website here:

Here is another definition of Roman Catholic Confirmation from the authoritative, Catholic Online. This quote states that it is an “anointing” and “initiation” by a Bishop, that it “complements and completes” the Roman Catholic “sacrament of baptism,” and that it “is the sacrament of maturity and coming of age” (boldface type and caps in original)..

“The sacrament of confirmation completes the sacrament of baptism. If baptism is the sacrament of re-birth to a new and supernatural life, confirmation is the sacrament of maturity and coming of age. The real confession of Christ consists in this ‘that the whole man submits himself to Truth, in the judgment of his understanding, in the submission of his will and in the consecration of his whole power of love . . . To do this, poor-spirited man is only able when he has been confirmed by God's grace.’



This confirmation in the power of the Holy Spirit leading to a firm profession of faith has always been the particular effect which Catholic tradition has ascribed to the sacrament. It is effect which complements and completes that of baptism.

THE CHURCH TEACHES


Confirmation is a true sacrament instituted by Christ and different from baptism. It is administered by laying-on of hands and anointing with chrism [“consecrated oil used in Greek and Latin churches especially in baptism, chrismation, confirmation, and ordination”] accompanied by prayer. The chrism is blessed by the bishop and the bishop administers the sacrament. All baptized persons can and should be confirmed. The effect of the sacrament of confirmation is to give strength in faith and for the confession of faith and to impress an indelible character.”[20]

According to the New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia, if the chrism (mixture of oil and balsam) is not exactly right, “the sacrament will be doubtfully valid.”

A mixture of oil of olives and balsam, blessed by a bishop in a special manner and used in the administration of certain sacraments and in the performance of certain ecclesiastical functions. That chrism may serve as valid matter for the Sacrament of Confirmation it must consist of pure oil of olives, and it must be blessed by a bishop, or at least by a priest delegated by the Holy See. These two conditions are certainly necessary for validity; moreover it is probable that there should be an admixture of balsam, and that the blessing of the chrism should be special, in the sense that it ought to be different from that which is given to the oil of the sick or the oil of catechumens. (Cf. Lehmkuhl, Cas. Cons. II, n.102.) If either of the last two conditions is wanting the sacrament will be doubtfully valid. To deal with the subject in a sufficiently exhaustive manner, it will be enough to touch upon

  1. the origin and antiquity of chrism;
  2. its constituent nature;
  3. its blessing; and
  4. its use and symbolical significance. [21]

For the concerned reader, the first three resources listed below clearly reveal what the Roman Catholic Sacraments are. The other listed resources show how the Roman Catholic Sacraments undo the biblical Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Simply stated, Roman Catholic Confirmation is purely Roman Catholic, is part of the works-based counterfeit salvation of Roman Catholicism, and it has the capacity to delude all who partake in it. Confirmation leads one further into Catholicism's false teachings, not closer to the biblical Jesus of Nazareth.

The following statements by Brian Broderson and Don Stewart speak for themselves. As such, it seems only right that all Calvary Chapel pastors should be doubly concerned about the type of "counsel" that is coming from Pastors Perspective.

“Terrific Tuesday” With Don Stewart and Brian Broderson:They Say Roman Catholic Confirmation Is Not Harmful

Here is the full transcript of Brian Broderson and Don Stewart from the Pastor’s Perspective counsel they gave on Tuesday, February 11, 2014. Brian Broderson states, “I wouldn't say that there's anything harmful about somebody going through something like this [Roman Catholic Confirmation].”[22]

The entirety of the transcript is included so that the reader can see the context in which the statements were made. Italicized text in the transcript represents the original verbal emphasis in the radio program, and the underlined text is for emphasis here in this article.

Pastor's Perspective with Don Stewart and Brian Broderson

KWVE Radio (February 11, 2014)

TRANSCRIPT

(First Caller from minute 3:54 to 9:28. Conversation begins at minute 3:54)

STEWART: OK let's go to Chris from Chino Hills California up first on Terrific Tuesday. Hi Chris welcome to the program!

CHRIS (CALLER): Hi guys thank you for taking my call.

BRODERSON/STEWART: You’re welcome! -- You're welcome!

CHRIS (CALLER): Um, I had a question um, I’ve been going back and forth a lot with my wife regarding this Confirmation thing, um and I told the screener that um I, I've been Catholic up until like two years ago and then I started going to Calvary Chapel, I go to Chino Hills with Jack Hibbs.

STEWART/BRODERSON: Great -- Yeah!

CHRIS (CALLER): The whole Confirmation thing I didn't fully believe it while I was a Catholic, and I still have a hard time trying to understand exactly what is going on, and we have to have a meeting tonight with somebody at the church we go to because my 16 (15?  SOMEWHAT INAUDIBLE) year old daughter don't want to finish, and my wife wants her to finish, and I'm not fully behind my wife on this situation, but I want to do what's biblically correct as far as standing behind my wife but I also want to do what's right by God.

STEWART: Yeah, okay, well Brian you’re in a position certainly to explain it to Chris what, what's going on.

BRODERSON: Yeah, well, well Chris first of all I would say, ya know, the most important thing in regard to your daughter would be for her to want to do something, ya know if, if somebody is being sort of forced to do something you know that's spiritual, that's not the proper basis for ever doing anything that's spiritual. We need to do it of our own volition, so, uh, you know that, that's one point that I would maybe you know bring up to your wife if your, if your daughter doesn't really want to do it than what's the point of doing it in the first place.

Confirmation, um what happens in Confirmation is at the age you know twelve, thirteen, which is where your daughter's at, um, you know, in the Catholic Church of course people are baptized as infants, and so they're trusting that you know you were baptized as an infant, your parents and of course there you have godparents as well they were responsible to kind of give you an upbringing in the faith, and then when you reach the age of twelve or thirteen you get confirmed, this is where you sort of, you know, uh you didn't have any power over your baptism when you were a baby but this is now a, a time where you can sort of, um, on your own say, "Yes I want to be a Catholic" and the idea too is that this is the, the Holy Spirit um according to their theology, the Holy Spirit is you know Confirming you in your faith, at this time.

So, um, you know all of these things are obviously complicated in the fact that your wife, um, you know apparently is remaining a Catholic and, and wants her, her daughter to be that, and then of course just the Catholic view of the whole thing. Um, I wouldn't say that there's anything harmful about somebody going through something like this, I don't think it would be something that you just absolutely no way could not do this and remain in good standing with Jesus, I don't think that that would be an issue there, um, it, it sounds more like it is just a, a bit of a conflict, you know, a family conflict, a conflict between you and your wife and different, different opinions about, um, how to go forward with your child, so, uh, I don't know.

STEWART: Hmmm, when you, you were Confirmed right Brian? Did you go through the Confirmation…

BRODERSON: -- I, I didn't, do it.

STEWART:-- Oh you did, you got, you got the Baptism but didn't get the second half?

BRODERSON/STEWART:-- (STARTS LAUGHING)

BRODERSON: No, because by the time Confirmation came around I was ready to, jet the church –

STEWART: -- Ditch it!

BRODERSON:-- go out and you know do my own thing. But then later I came back to the [ROMAN CATHOLIC] Church in my late teens, and got re-involved but I never did get re-Confirmed.

STEWART: Hmmm, mm, mm, yeh, I, I had a bunch of Roman Catholic friends growing up and I remember they talked about Confirmation and all of that then they went out and got drunk afterwards, it was like, what did it mean to em? We were all unbelievers at that time.

BRODERSON: Well that's it Don, you know, the, the problem is of course this is just a religionyou know, and it’s a ritual for mostpeople --

STEWART:--Yeh!

BRODERSON: -- I mean there are a few people [A FEW PEOPLE?] that take it more seriously and so forth, but it is a ritual and um most people are doing it because they are being forced to do it by their parents, quite frankly.

STEWART: Yeah, and it sounds like Chris is gonna have some issues down the line with his wife, you know, Protestant/Catholic and, a lot of different things.

BRODERSON: Yeah, but I, but I, like I said, I think um, you know if your daughter wanted to do it then I would say "let her do it, it's not going to hurt her," um you know God can use these things, uh, but on the other hand, um, if she doesn't want to do it like I said this might be a good talking point…

STEWART: Yeah!

BRODERSON: -- between you and your wife, and, the person that you're going to meet with tonight, if you are going to meet with a deacon or a priest in the church you might let em’ know that she doesn't want to do it, I would think, you know if I was in that position and I heard somebody, you know, if I, somebody said "I don't want to be baptized" I wouldn't baptize em’.

STEWART: Yeah, I, uh, that was going to be my next question, "What about, do people, if they don't want to be Confirmed but their parents are pushing forcing em’ do they still do it anyway, is that how it works?"

BRODERSON: Well, uh, you do what your parents tell you to do.

STEWART: I gotcha, okay, I gotcha!...

BRODERSON: (LAUGHING)

STEWART:-- So uh, and so the people there don't have any say so, right, at the Church, they, ya know, if someone says, they want…?

BRODERSON: Well I, I would think the priest could say, "Well you know it's probably not a good time…

STEWART: Yeah!

BRODERSON:-- maybe we should wait till", that's what, that’s what I would do –

STEWART: Exactly!

BRODERSON:-- but who knows?

STEWART:Yeah, I don't know, okay.

STEWART: Well, Chris, you know, you'll need wisdom there, we'll ask the Lord to give you some wisdom on that, but uh, again like, like Brian said, if she does go through with it there's nothing wrong with doing something like that, as long as you are, ya know telling her that that's, her baptism didn't save her she needs that personal relationship with Christ, that is the important thing.

BRODERSON: Right, right.

STEWART: Okay David from Riverside has got an interesting question here on Terrific Tuesday, Hi David welcome to the program…

(Conversation ends at minute 9:28.)

Further induction into Roman Catholicism through Confirmation

Roman Catholic Confirmation is an induction process further into the Roman Catholic system of Christianized paganism. The record of Roman Catholic Church history and the Vatican's own material prove this beyond any shadow of a doubt, yet here are two leading Calvary Chapel pastors giving the go ahead for it, and even saying it is not harmful. According to Don Stewart it is okay as long as one has a “personal relationship with Christ.” But again, which “Christ?” Rome’s Eucharistic version of Christ is qualitatively different than the Christ of Scripture. Roman Catholicism and Biblical Christianity are diametrically opposed to one another.

Should Christians mix the two? Does this really honor the Lord? Is this really biblical?

The following quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia on NewAdvent.Org explains the “Present practice and doctrine” of the “Rite” and “Minister” of Roman Catholic Confirmation (italics in original).

Rite

In the Western Church the sacrament is usually administered by the bishop. At the beginning of the ceremony there is a general imposition of hands, the bishop meantime praying that the Holy Ghost may come down upon those who have already been regenerated: "send forth upon them thy sevenfold Spirit the Holy Paraclete." He then anoints the forehead of each with chrism saying: "I sign thee with the sign of the cross and confirm thee with the chrism of salvation, in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost." Finally, he gives each a slight blow on the cheek saying: "peace be with thee". A prayer is added that the Holy Spirit may dwell in the hearts of those who have been confirmed, and the rite closes with the bishop's blessing.

The Eastern Church omits the imposition of hands and the prayer at the beginning, and accompanies the anointing with the words: "the sign [or seal] of the gift of the Holy Ghost." These several actions symbolize the nature and purpose of the sacrament: the anointing signifies the strength given for the spiritual conflict; the balsam contained in the chrism, the fragrance of virtue and the good odor of Christ; the sign of the cross on the forehead, the courage to confess Christ, before all men; the imposition of hands and the blow on the cheek, enrollment in the service of Christ which brings true peace to the soul. (Cf. Summa Theologiæ III.72.4).

Minister

The bishop alone is the ordinary minister of confirmation. This is expressly declared by the Council of Trent (Sess. VII, De Conf., C. iii). A bishop confirms validly even those who are not his own subjects; but to confirm licitly in another diocese he must secure the permission of the bishop of that diocese. Simple priests may be the extraordinary ministers of the sacrament under certain conditions. In such cases, however, the priest cannot wear pontifical vestments, and he is obliged to use chrism blessed by a Catholic bishop. In the Greek Church, confirmation is given by simple priests without special delegation, and their ministration is accepted by the Western Church as valid. They must, however, use chrism blessed by a patriarch h.[23]

What does The Holy Bible say versus The Catechism of the Catholic Church?

Here is a concise refutation of Roman Catholic Confirmation, from Rick Jones’ bookUnderstanding Roman Catholicism,Chapter 27.[24]

Numbered references are from the Catechism of the Catholic Church:[25]

Confirmation, besides being one of the sacraments necessary for salvation, also provides Catholics with other benefits, says the Catechism:

“Confirmation perfects Baptismal grace; it is the sacrament which gives the Holy Spirit in order to root us more deeply in the divine filiation, incorporate us more firmly into Christ, strengthen our bond with the Church...” Pg. 333, #1316

Supposedly, Confirmation incorporates Catholics more firmly into Christ. But the Bible teaches no such doctrine. According to God's Word, you are either in Christ or you are not. Being more firmly incorporated into Christ is never taught:

“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.” 2 Corinthians 5:17

Once you are born into God's family, there is no person or thing that can remove you from it:

“For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 8:38-39

A child of God does not need to be more firmly incorporated into Christ:

“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.” Romans 8:1



“But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.” Ephesians 2:13

A spiritual imprint?



Another supposed benefit of Confirmation is that:

“Confirmation, like Baptism, imprints a spiritual mark or indelible character on the Christian's soul...” Pg. 333, #1317

You can search the Bible, but you will not read about the imprinting of spiritual marks on a Christian's souls. The Catechism tells us why:

“The imposition of hands is rightly recognized by the Catholic tradition as the origin of the sacrament of Confirmation...” Pg. 326 #1288

Confirmation is not in the Bible because it's a tradition of men... a life-long tradition that is to be performed up until the last moment of a Catholic's life:

“If a Christian is in danger of death, any priest should give him Confirmation. Indeed, the Church desires that none of her children, even the youngest, should depart this world without having been perfected by the Holy Spirit with the gift of Christ 's fullness.” Pg. 332, #1314

The real purpose of Confirmation



The practical result is that this ritual brings people into deeper bondage to the Catholic Church. Surprisingly, the Catechism admits this:

“For by the sacrament of Confirmation, [the baptized] are more perfectly bound to the Church...” Pg. 326 #1285

But why would anyone need or want to be bound to the rules of the Catholic Church, considering that Jesus came to set people free?

“If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.” John 8:36



“Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free...” Galatians 5:1

Conclusion



Is the man-made Roman Catholic tradition of Confirmation necessary for salvation? God's Holy Word emphatically states, “No!”

The Catholic Church disregards the Bible and insists that it is. 

Who will you believe... the Word of God, or the commandments of men?

“But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” Matthew 15:9

The above numbered references of the Catholic Catechism can be viewed in the book version and also online under the heading(s):

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

PART TWO- THE CELEBRATION OF THE CHRISTIAN MYSTERY  SECTION TWO - THE SEVEN SACRAMENTS OF THE CHURCH  CHAPTER ONE - THE SACRAMENTS OF CHRISTIAN INITIATION   ARTICLE 2 - THE SACRAMENT OF CONFIRMATION[26]

Will the Calvary Chapel Association Leadership Council let this slide too?

http://www.jennifer-lawson.com

In consideration of all of these things, it is clear that for a Calvary Chapel pastor (and any Christian pastor for that matter) to say that Roman Catholic Confirmation “would not be harmful” is a drastic irresponsibility. Some would consider it to be a departure from biblical orthodoxy. Others would say it is a total diversion from sound biblical counsel. Roman Catholic Confirmation, as the Roman Catholic Church teaches,indoctrinates and spiritually invigorates Roman Catholic belief and practice.

Why would Brian Broderson and Don Stewart not warn of such things? I personally cannot answer that question, but perhaps the Calvary Chapel Association leadership Council can?

The Calvary Chapel Association Leadership Council currently is made up of the following men:

Pastor Skip Heitzig (Calvary of Albuquerque); Pastor Rick Ryan (Kumulani Chapel); Pastor Raul Ries (Calvary Chapel Golden Springs); Pastor Mike MacIntosh (Horizon Christian Fellowship); Pastor Don McClure (Calvary Way); Pastor Joe Focht (Calvary Chape of Philadelphia); Pastor Bob Coy (Calvary Chapel Ft. Lauderdale); Pastor Bob Caldwell (Calvary Chapel Boise); Pastor Jack Hibbs (Calvary Chapel Chino Hills); Pastor Brian Brodersen (Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa); Pastor David Rosales (Calvary Chapel Chino Valley); Pastor Malcolm Wild (Calvary Chapel Merritt Island); Pastor Jeff Johnson (Calvary Chapel Downey); Pastor Bill Stonebraker (Calvary Chapel Honolulu); Pastor Wayne Taylor (Calvary Fellowship); Pastor Tom Stipe (Crossroads Church of Denver); Pastor David Guzik  (Calvary Chapel Santa Barbara); Pastor Ray Bentley (Maranatha Chapel); Pastor Lloyd Pulley (Calvary Chapel Old Bridge); Pastor Sandy Adams (Calvary Chapel Stone Mountain).

[Source: Calvary Chapel Leadership Association, Leadership Council. http://calvarychapelassociation.com/general-information/leadership-council/. Accessed February 13, 2014.]

Contrary to the counsel many of these men would give, Brian Broderson and Don Stewart counsel:

Brian Broderson:--you can sort of, um, on your own say “Yes I want to be a Catholic” and the idea too is that this is the, the Holy Spirit um according to their theology, the Holy Spirit is you know Confirming you in your faith, at this time…your wife, um, you know apparently is remaining a Catholic and, and wants her, her daughter to be that, and then of course just the Catholic view of the whole thing. Um, I wouldn't say that there's anything harmful about somebody going through something like this…. if your daughter wanted to do it then I would say “let her do it, it's not going to hurt her,” um you know God can use these things...”

Stewart:  -- again like, like Brian said, if she does go through with it there's nothing wrong with doing something like that,as long as you are, ya know telling her that that's, her baptism didn't save her she needs that personal relationship with Christ, that is the important thing.”

Previous counsel on Pastor’s Perspective that “a lot of good Mormon’s will go to heaven”

Never in over a quarter of a century have I heard Brian Broderson and Don Stewart give such incredibly blatant and harmful counsel. Well, at least not Brian Broderson. Don Stewart has a growing track record of padding problematic statements, like the one that Chuck Smith made while live on the air. Don Stewart did not correct Smith when he said, “there are a lot of good Mormons who do believe in Jesus and I believe they’ll be in heaven.” Which Jesus? Mormonism is one of the fastest growing and most dangerous cults in the United States and their “Jesus,” as they claim, it the “spirit brother of Lucifer.”

Here is the transcript of Chuck Smith’s statement, and Don Stewart going along with it:

K-WAVE Pastor’s Perspective Radio Program Transcript - November 9, 2011

Recorded live at Calvary Chapel Pacific Coast

TRANSCRIPT

(Begin at minute 36:07)

STEWART:All right, this is gonna be a fun one here, to Cheyenne Wyoming, we have Alexa on the line. Hi, Alexa welcome to the program.  Hello there, you there with us, Alexa?

ALEXA (CALLER):Yeah!

STEWART:Hi, you’re on the air. Go ahead, sweetie.

ALEXA: My Aunt Valerie doesn’t really know The Book of Mormon, so will she still go to hell?

STEWART:Okay good question. Okay, Alexa’s got an Aunt, Chuck, whose, is a Mormon and wants to know if uh the Mormon will go to heaven.

SMITH:It all depends on their relationship with Jesus Christ, and there are a lot of good Mormons who do believe in Jesus and I believe they’ll be in heaven, uh but uh you know we can’t do it on own righteousness or own works, we have to depend on Jesus for our entrance into heaven.

STEWART:All right Alexa we’ve got to ask your age, you got a darling voice there from Cheyenne, we’ll get ya back on the phone, can you tell us your age young lady?

ALEXA: Can I ask you another question? [Don and Chuck and live church audience laughs.]

STEWART: Uh that’s what I get, how can I say no to that, okay one more, we got a follow up here, go ahead Alexa, but tell us your age first then I’ll let you ask the question, okay, how old are ya?

ALEXA: I’m ten.

STEWART: Okay, since you’ve told us your age you can ask the follow up. [Don laughs.]

(Minute 37:28) [27]

Chuck Smith said he has “The same Lord and the same faith” as his cousin, a Mother Superior (Nun) in the Roman Catholic Church

Don Stewart also never corrected Chuck Smith when Chuck Smith said, “I have a cousin who was a Mother Superior in the Catholic Church, and uh, she was just a wonderful Christian, loved her and we had great conversations together, and I didn’t try to convert her from Catholicism nor did she try to convert me uh into becoming a Catholic, its just we both recognize that uh you know we have, we had the same Lord, and the same uh faith ya know and so uh we just uh you know on those things we agreed upon we just agreed upon and we didn’t really bring up the things where there were disagreements.”

Here is the radio transcript from that Pastor’s Perspective program:

K-WAVE Pastor’s Perspective Radio Program Transcript - November 10, 2011

TRANSCRIPT

(Begin at minute 48:10)

STEWART: All right back we go to the phones to Orange, California with Ben on the line. Ben, welcome to Pastors Perspective, Hi!

BEN (CALLER): Hi, how are you?

STEWART:Fine thank you!

BEN: I uh, I am a loyal listener, I um love going to uh your men’s conferences [STEWART: “Good!”] and I fellowship with a bunch of people at Calvary Chapels, um I visit Greg Laurie’s Harvest, and I have a question because I sometimes I have a hard time understanding um how I um, communicate with people um of the Protestant faith because I am Catholic, and sometimes we um have communication issues and, they want to get into apologetics and um, you know I love the worship and the fellowship with those - with the different people but um I’m going to hang onto my faith as well, and I am just curious what you think about it.

STEWART: Okay, good question there Ben in fact were glad you’re going to these events we’re glad you listen to this program. Okay Chuck what about that?

SMITH: Ben I have a cousin who was a Mother Superior in the Catholic Church, and uh, she was just a wonderful Christian, loved her and we had great conversations together, and I didn’t try to convert her from Catholicism nor did she try to convert me uh into becoming a Catholic, its just we both recognize that uh you know we have, we had the same Lord, and the same uh faith ya know and so uh we just uh you know on those things we agreed upon we just agreed upon and we didn’t really bring up the things where there were disagreements.

STEWART [Minute 49:42]: Yeah, um again the question is Ben if you love the Lord Jesus, if you’re trusting Him and Him alone for your salvation that’s the key, what are you trusting in, what’s going to get you to heaven is it Jesus and something else or Jesus and Jesus alone and that’s the question that needs to be answered, and of course the Bible said its Jesus alone by grace through faith we’re saved, it’s not of ourselves, not of works lest anyone should boast, cause Chuck it wouldn’t be heaven would it if people were walking around bragging what they’ve done...and uh no peacocks strutin’ around, na na it’d be real miserable we’re not going to see that in heaven.  All right, let’s go now to Aurora, Colorado and talk to Jay on Pastor’s Perspective. Jay welcome to the program…

(Minute 50:20) [28]

Chuck Smith said, “Catholics are basically Christians too”

It really shouldn’t surprise us that Pastor’s Perspective has become so Ecumenical with Roman Catholicism, for it was on November 23, 2011 that Chuck Smith himself stated “…you know Catholics are basically Christians too.”

K-WAVE Pastor’s Perspective Radio Program Transcript - November 23, 2011 

TRANSCRIPT

(Begin at minute 28:24)

ROBERT BALTODANO (of Generation 242): Alrighty, we’re going to go to Ontario California and talk to Beverly. Beverly you’re on Pastor’s Perspective. Welcome, you have about a minute left so if you can state your question.

BEVERYLY (CALLER): Yes I have a question. Is it right for a Catholic woman to marry a Christian man even though she’s pregnant with his child? 

BALTODANO: All right, pastor Chuck.

CHUCK SMITH:Well I don’t uh see that uh, a th, th, well there’s gonna be difficulty, uh ya know it’s it you know ah but if you can resolve the differences, I don’t think that they’re that great and I think that you’ve probably uh if you’re pregnant with his child you should marry him, and uh, and of course I think that uh, you know its um, ah hh its all right, it can uh, uh you can resolve the differences I and I think that uh it’s it’s uh hehe I know I know of many of of that ya know that, you know you know Catholics are basically Christians too, and uh, so uh, I think that uh ya know what the differences are are much less than uh what a lot of people face and are overcoming in their marriages. [Chuck Smith Jr. cuts in at this point and says...]

CHUCK SMITH JR.:I think the more important questions are, is he a good man and do they love each other?

CHUCK SMITH:M, hmm!

(Minute 29:36) [29]

What does the future hold for Calvary Chapel?

With such counsel from leading Calvary Chapel pastors in the present, and the fact that Brian Broderson is now at the helm of Calvary Chapel as Chuck Smith passed away in the Fall of 2013, one must wonder what the future holds for over 1500 Calvary Chapel senior pastors and their congregations.

Will the Calvary Chapel movement one day engage in what Aimee Semple McPherson, Kathryn Kuhlman, and Lonnie Frisbee engaged in – Ecumenical Jihad with Roman Catholicism, teaching false doctrine, and leading others into outlandish end-times apostasy?

While the bulk of Calvary Chapel leaders across the world will probably find it utterly astounding that Brian Broderson and Don Stewart did not give the slightest warning about Roman Catholic Confirmation, but rather said it would not be harmful, Calvary Chapel leaders should remember that this is simply the manifestation of what Scripture warns:

A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. (Galatians 5:9)

Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? (1 Corinthians 5:6)

Pastor Chuck’s declaration from Answers For Today -  “We’re all one”

The idea that Calvary Chapel and all different denominations are all “One” can actually be found in print, in Chuck Smith’s own Word For Today Publication.

Here is a direct quote from Pastor Chuck saying, “there aren't any real divisions in the Body. We're all one.”  This unbiblical concept is found in his 1993 book, Answers For Today(p. 157). Here is what Pastor Chuck believed and taught, in context (emphasis added):

Paul points out that some say, ‘I’m of Paul,’ while others say, ‘I’m of Apollos.’ He asked, ‘Isn’t that carnal?’ But what’s the difference between saying that or saying, ‘I’m a Baptist,’ ‘I’m a Presbyterian,’ ‘I’m a Methodist,’ ‘I’m a Catholic’?I have found that the more spiritual a person becomes, the less denominational he is. We should realize that we're all part of the Body of Christ and that there aren't any real divisions in the Body. We're all one.

What a glorious day when we discover that God loves the Baptists! - And the Presbyterians, and the Methodists, and the Catholics. We're all His and we all belong to Him. We see the whole Body of Christ, and we begin to strive together rather than striving against one another. But, as long as a person is filled with a haughty spirit, he will show the mark of carnality rather than real spiritual growth and maturity.[30]

According to the logic in Chuck Smith’s teaching here, “real spiritual growth and maturity” is characterized by those who are “less denominational,” and who “realize that we're all part of the Body of Christ and that there aren't any real divisions in the Body. We're all one.” This is spiritual maturity? In relation to who passes the test of genuine Christian spirituality and purity, the Bible says:

For there must be also heresies [factions] among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest [recognized] among you. (1 Corinthians 11:19)

But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloke of covetousness; God is witness:. (1 Thessalonians 2:4-5)

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. (1 John 2:18-19)

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. (1 John 4:1)

The 2011 PewForum.Org report states there are “2.18 billion Christians of all ages around the world.” If everyone can claim “We're all one,” then why did Paul the Apostle warn about the Great Apostasy and say the following to committed Christians living at the North end of the Aegean Sea, at Thessalonica (modern Salonica):

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thessalonians 2:3-12)

Paul’s warning from Miletus in Asia Minor

Chuck Smith’s “We're all one” teaching does not fit well with warnings throughout the New Testament about false teachers within the church. The apostles assiduously warned God’s people about deceivers, false teachers, false prophets, spiritual deception, abusive leaders, etc. All these warnings are typified in this warning that Paul gave to the Ephesian elders when he was on his way to Jerusalem. Notice that Paul mentions “years,” and that he “ceased not to warn every one,” and with “tears.” Perhaps more Calvary Chapel leaders these days should try warning people, and that, with tears:

Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. (Acts 20:28-31)

God’s warning from Heaven

This “we’re all one” teaching is also different than what Jesus observed. Jesus does not like it when His church tolerates false doctrine:

I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false…Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. (Revelation 2:2).

Does not the Roman Catholic Church, more than any other church on the face of the earth, engage in sexual immorality and eating things sacrifice to idols (The Sacrifice of the Mass)? Yes, it does!

Which Jesus are they talking about?

For many years I never heard Chuck Smith or Brian Broderson or Don Stewart teach a type of Christianity that was Ecumenical in nature and soft on false teachers in the church. However, the last few years in particular things have really began to slip.

Unfortunately, other well-known “Protestants” have said things somewhat similar to what Chuck Smith and Brian Broderson and Don Stewart have said. Consider Billy Graham who for many decades worked closely with the Roman Catholic Church. Billy’s words are recorded in the January 1978 issue of McCall’s magazine. He said, “I’ve found that my beliefs are essentially the same as those of orthodox Roman Catholics.”[31]

Is this any worse than Chuck Smith saying:

“Ben I have a cousin who was a Mother Superior in the Catholic Church, and uh, she was just a wonderful Christian, loved her and we had great conversations together, and I didn’t try to convert her from Catholicism nor did she try to convert me uh into becoming a Catholic, its just we both recognize that uh you know we have, we had the same Lord, and the same uh faith ya know and so uh we just uh you know on those things we agreed upon we just agreed upon and we didn’t really bring up the things where there were disagreements”?

And then there was the recently deceased Paul Crouch of TBN, whom Dave Hunt rightly exposed (as have many others) in his extensively documented book, A Women Rides The Beast. In Chapter 26 - Apostasy and Ecumenism, Hunt quotes Crouch as saying, “I’m eradicating the word Protestant even out of my vocabulary....I[’m] not protesting anything...[it’s] time for Catholics and non-Catholics to come together as one in the Spirit and one in the Lord.”

Is this any worse than Chuck Smith’s 1993 statement in Answers For Today:

“But what’s the difference between saying that or saying, ‘I’m a Baptist,’ ‘I’m a Presbyterian,’ ‘I’m a Methodist,’ ‘I’m a Catholic’? I have found that the more spiritual a person becomes, the less denominational he is. We should realize that we're all part of the Body of Christ and that there aren't any real divisions in the Body. We’re all one. What a glorious day when we discover that God loves the Baptists! - And the Presbyterians, and the Methodists, and the Catholics. We're all His and we all belong to Him. We see the whole Body of Christ, and we begin to strive together rather than striving against one another. But, as long as a person is filled with a haughty spirit, he will show the mark of carnality rather than real spiritual growth and maturity.

In an amazing display of apostasy and bankruptcy, Robert Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral now finally belongs to the Roman Catholic Church. Perhaps it should, the Los Angeles Herald Examiner’s September 19, 1987 Religion page reported the ever-Ecumenical Robert Schuller as saying, “It’s time for Protestants to go to the shepherd [the pope] and say, “What do we have to do to come home?”[32]

Are Schuller’s statements any worse than Brian Broderson’s and Don Stewart’s that Roman Catholic Confirmation is not harmful, as long as one has “a relationship with Jesus”? Norman Vincent Peale and Robert Schuller and Billy Graham and Paul Crouch and Rick Warren and Joel Osteen and so many others have all touted the name of Jesus and said they have “a relationship with Jesus,” yet they all have taught false doctrine and/or worked together with the Roman Catholic Church. Even the Pope and countless cult leaders can say they “have a relationship with Jesus.” But which Jesus are they talking about?

Will Calvary Chapel leaders warn about Roman Catholicism, or lead people to it?

If Calvary Chapel leaders, and especially well-known pastors on Pastor’s Perspective, are not going to effectively warn the body of Christ about the dangerous false gospel of Roman Catholicism, more and more people will either end up leaving Calvary Chapel fellowships or they will be deluded into thinking that Calvary Chapel Ecumenism is okay.

As more Calvary Chapel leaders yield to the lowest common denominator of Interfaith and Ecumenical spirituality, accommodation to that which is unbiblical will eventually become the norm. As such, the door to everlasting life through Jesus Christ will become harder and harder to find, and the Calvary Chapel movement will find itself immersed in the rubbish heap of apostate Christendom. It is already moving in that direction, however, God will not be mocked! The Lord expects His people to separate from false teachers and false teaching.  Jesus warned:

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. (Matthew 7:13-14)

Wimpy soft-separatism, compromise through the accommodation of Ecumenists and false teachers, and a growing “Mr. Nice Guy” neo-Evangelical approach is not God’s answer to the growing apostate Christianity that is on the broad road “that leadeth to destruction.” Closing one’s ears and eyes while the Watchmen repeatedly sound the alarm is the exact opposite of what God wants and what His Word teaches.

The big question today is, “How far will the Calvary Chapel Association Leadership Council go, in allowing Brian Broderson and Don Stewart (and others) to give the go-ahead to Roman Catholic practices?” Sadly, as many have already observed, they will probably do absolutely nothing. Even Rick Warren was allowed to sit on the stage at Pastor Chuck Smith’s own memorial Tribute service. Warren’s false teachings, pragmatic theology and Interfaith Ecumenism have been exposed for many years now, yet he is accepted with open arms by leading Calvary Chapel pastors. Warren even took center-stage for the photo shoot, after Smith’s Tribute service. For the photo session Rick Warren stood in the very center of Chuck Smith’s inner-circle of Calvary Chapel pastors.

Paul told Timothy, “Teach no other doctrine”

At the rate things are going in some Calvary Chapel leadership circles, and with Rick Warren’s recent influential endorsement of Tom Peterson’s book, Catholics Come Home [a plea to Protestant “separated brethren”], perhaps it won’t be too long before more Calvary Chapel leaders begin working with Rick Warren’s Ecumenical Purpose Driven and Interfaith PEACE Plan agendas. Maybe we will even see a number of Calvary Chapel leaders feel the need to “Come home to Rome!”

Much ground work has already been laid for future apostasy within the Calvary Chapel movement. It is very sad to see it, and it is very sad to watch many leaders doing little to nothing to stop it. Biblically discerning believers have been warning Calvary Chapel leaders for many years now, but the problems remain, and they are growing. The signs and symptoms of spiritual decay and apostasy that are being seen today are simply outward expressions of a much deeper problem within Calvary Chapel. What is that deeper problem? That deeper problem is the fear of man and man-pleasing, which is another subject entirely, but worth mentioning here.

One thing is for sure, Roman Catholic Sacraments that delude and hold people in bondage are on par with the “fables and endless genealogies” that Paul warned about in the first century A.D. What was Paul’s command to young Pastor Timothy? It was nothing less than, “[t]each no other doctrine...neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies”:

Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope; Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord. As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine, Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. (1 Timothy 1:1-3)

-SRN


Photo documentation: (1) Rick Warren at Harvest Crusade, (2) Rick Warren in studio on Pastor’s Perspective, and (3) Rick Warren on stage at Chuck Smith’s memorial Tribute service.

Photos of the following events can be found on various Internet pages. SRN does not “endorse” the following links, these are simply listed in order to back up the statements made in this publication with photo documentation.

(1) Calvary Chapel’s 20-year anniversary Harvest Crusade (8/16/09): Greg Laurie, Chuck Smith, Rick Warren.

(2) Pastor’s Perspective (2/26/13): Don Stewart, Chuck Smith and Rick Warren.

(3) Chuck Smith’s Tribute service (10/27/14): Rick Warren (center) with Calvary Association Leaders.

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•    http://calvarychapel.pbworks.com/w/page/70858583/CS%20Memorial%20Service%20Contro

•    http://www.christianpost.com/news/tribute-to-pastor-chuck-smith-includes-praise-for-biblical-foundation-loyal-support-of-israel-107603/

Calvary Chapel ‘Parson to Parson’ position paper: The 2006 Calvary Chapel ‘Parson to Parson’ position paper by Calvary Chapel Outreach Fellowships, Inc. (CCOF Ministry) can be read online. This position paper refutes numerous things Rick Warren is doing and has done. The CCOF Ministry became Calvary Chapel Association in 2012.


Endnotes:


[1]Chris Lawson, ‘Don Stewart & Brian Broderson Give Pastoral Counsel That Roman Catholic “Confirmation” is Not Harmful (Commentary & Transcript),’ http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/stewart-broderson-catholic-confirmation-transcript.html .

[2]Ibid.

[3]Ibid.

[4]Cited in Vatican Archive, ‘89 Cf. Roman Ritual, Rite of Confirmation (OC), Introduction 1.,’ See Catechism of the Catholic Church,http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a2.htm . Accessed February 16, 2014.

[5]Cited in Vatican Archive, ‘LG 11; Cf. OC, Introduction 2.’  See Catechism of the Catholic Church, Vatican Archive, http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a2.htm . Accessed February 16, 2014.

[6]Chris Lawson, ‘Calvary Chapel Pastors and CCOF Ministry Reject Warnings About Ecumenical Jerry Boykin,’ http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/calvary_chapel_raul_ries_silence.html . Accessed February 26, 2014.

[7]Kingdom Warriors.net, http://www.kingdomwarriors.net . Accessed February 26, 2014.

[8]Thirty-three search results for Jerry Boykin on Rick Joyner’s Morning Star Ministries website, http://www.morningstarministries.org/search/node/jerry%20boykin . Accessed February 26, 2014.

[9]Internet search on Google for thousands of results for Rick Joyner’s false teachings.  See also, ‘The False Teachings of Rick Joyner’ by Joseph R. Chambers, D.D., 1999, http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/joyner.html .  See archive of articles exposing Rick Joyner’s false teachings: http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/newapostolic.html#rjoyner . Accessed February 26, 2014.

[10]The Knights Hospitallers of the Sovereign Order of St. John of Jerusalem Knights of Malta – The Ecumenical Order, http://theknightshospitallers.org/. Accessed February 27, 2014.

[11]The Knights Hospitallers website:  http://theknightshospitallers.org/leadership. Accessed February 27, 2014.

[12]Ibid.

[13]Chris Lawson, ‘Calvary Chapel Pastors and CCOF Ministry Reject Warnings About Ecumenical Jerry Boykin,’ http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/calvary_chapel_ccof_ministry_request.html . Accessed February 27, 2014.

[14]CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH    PART TWO - THE CELEBRATION OF THE CHRISTIAN MYSTERY   SECTION TWO - THE SEVEN SACRAMENTS OF THE CHURCH    CHAPTER ONE - THE SACRAMENTS OF CHRISTIAN INITIATION   ARTICLE 2 - THE SACRAMENT OF CONFIRMATION   1285.  Vatican Archives, http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a2.htm . Accessed February 16, 2014.

[15]Roger Oakland, Another Jesus?: The eucharist christ and the new evangelization (Lighthouse Trails Publishing: Eureka, MT), 2007.

[16]Fr. James Farfaglia, 'Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity: The Miracle and Gift of the Most Holy Eucharist,’ 6/6/2010, Catholic Online, http://www.catholic.org/hf/faith/story.php?id=36838 . Accessed February 27, 2014.

[17]‘Mary: Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate,’ EWTN, http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/coredemedadv.HTM . Accessed February 27, 2014.

[18]Compilation by Fr. William G. Most, ‘Church Teaching on Mary as Mediatrix of (All) Graces,’ https://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/marya4a.htm . Accessed February 27, 2014.

[19]CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH - THE SACRAMENT OF CONFIRMATION: 1285. Vatican Archives, http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a2.htm . Accessed February 16, 2014.

[20]‘Sacrament of Confirmation,’ Catholic Online, http://www.catholic.org/clife/prayers/sacrament.php?id=3 . Accessed February 13, 2014.

[21]‘Chrism,’ New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia, http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03696b.htm . Accessed February 27, 2014.

[22]Pastor's Perspective with Don Stewart and Brian Broderson, KWVE Radio (February 11, 2014), https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/pastors-perspective-02-11-14/id78960147?i=255288795&mt=2, Accessed February 13, 2014. TRANSCRIPT posted online here: ‘Don Stewart & Brian Broderson Give Pastoral Counsel That Roman Catholic "Confirmation" is Not Harmful (Commentary & Transcript),’ http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/stewart-broderson-catholic-confirmation-transcript.html . Accessed February 27, 2014.

[23]Confirmation, Catholic Encyclopedia on NewAdvent.Org, http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04215b.htm .Accessed February 16, 2014.

[24]Rick Jones, Understanding Roman Catholicism, Chapter 27, as found in David J. Stewart’s article ‘Catholic Confirmation is of the Devil,’  http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/confirmation.htm.  Accessed February 16, 2014.  Rick Jones’ book can be purchased here: http://www.chick.com/reading/books/160/160_27.asp .

[25]Catechism of the Catholic Church, Vatican Archives, http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM . Accessed February 16, 2014.

[26]Catechism of the Catholic Church, Vatican Archives website, http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a2.htm . Accessed February 16, 2014.

[27]K-WAVE Pastor’s Perspective Radio Program Transcript - November 9, 2011. Recorded live at Calvary Chapel Pacific Coast, http://www.kwve.com/podcasts/Pastor%27s%20Perspective%2011_09_11.m4a, [TRANSCRIPT posted online here: ‘Calvary Chapel’s Chuck Smith Says, “There Are a Lot of Good Mormons Who Do Believe in Jesus and I Believe They'll Be In Heaven,”’ http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/chuck_smith_good_mormons_go_to_heaven.html . Accessed February 27, 2014.

[28]K-WAVE Pastor’s Perspective Radio Program Transcript - November 10, 2011, http://www.kwve.com/podcasts/Pastor%27s%20Perspective%2011_10_11.m4a, [TRANSCRIPT posted online here: ‘Chuck Smith Says He Has "The Same Lord and the Same Faith” as His Cousin, Who is a Mother Superior (Nun) in the Roman Catholic Church,’ http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/chuck_smith_mother_superior_same_lord_same_faith.html . Accessed February 27, 2014.

[29]K-WAVE Pastor’s Perspective Radio Program Transcript - November 23, 2011 

http://www.kwve.com/podcasts/Pastor%27s%20Perspective%2011_23_11.m4a, [TRANSCRIPT posted online here: Calvary Chapel’s Chuck Smith Says “Catholics Are Basically Christians Too”, http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/chuck_smith_catholics_basically_christians.html . Accessed February 27, 2014.

[30]Chuck Smith, Answers For Today (Costa Mesa, CA: The Word For Today Publishers, 1993) p. 157.

[31]Cited in Dave Hunt, A Woman Rides the Beast: The Roman Catholic Church and the Last Days (Eugene, OR: Harvest House Publishers, 1994) , p. 388.


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