Calvary Chapel’s Chuck Smith Says “You Know Catholics Are Basically Christians Too”
Pastors Perspective with Don Stewart (Chuck Smith "you know Catholics are basically Christians too") - Nov 23, 2011

Calvary Chapel’s Chuck Smith Says “You Know Catholics Are Basically Christians Too”

Pastors Perspective with Don Stewart

(Chuck Smith "you know Catholics are basically Christians too") - Nov 23, 2011

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Calvary Chapel’s Chuck Smith Says “Catholics Are Basically Christians Too”

K-WAVE Pastor’s Perspective Radio Program Transcript - November 23, 2011


Begin at minute 28:24


Host: Alrightee we’re going to go to Ontario California and talk to Beverly, Beverly you’re on Pastors Perspective welcome, you have about a minute left so if you can state your question.


Beverly (caller): Yes I have a question, is it right for a Catholic woman to marry a Christian man even though she’s pregnant with his child? 


Host: Alright pastor Chuck.


Chuck Smith: Well I don’t uh see that uh, a th, th, well there’s gonna be difficulty, uh ya know it’s it you know ah but if you can resolve the differences, I don’t think that they’re that great and I think that you’ve probably uh if you’re pregnant with his child you should marry him, and uh, and of course I think that uh, you know its um, ah hh its alright, it can uh, uh you can resolve the differences I and I think that uh it’s it’s uh hehe I know I know of many of of that ya know that, you know you know Catholics are basically Christians too, and uh, so uh, I think that uh ya know what the differences are are much less than uh what a lot of people face and are overcoming in their marriages. [Chuck Smith Jr. cuts in at this point and says...]


Chuck Smith Jr.: I think the more important questions are, is he a good man and do they love each other?


Chuck Smith: M,hmm! [Minute 29:36]



What Does The Bible Say?


"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!" (Matthew 7:21-23)


Why did Chuck Smith, Don Stewart and Chuck Smith, Jr. not clarify the difference between Roman Catholicism and biblical Christianity on the November 10 and November 23, 2011 K-WAVE Pastor’s Perspective Radio Programs? 


The Roman Catholic Jesus is the "Eucharistic Jesus" that is to be eaten and ingested - "Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity" [1] This is blasphemy according to biblical Christians and these three men know it. The Jesus of Rome and the Roman Catholic Priesthood are in the end not the Jesus of the Bible, as the two are diametrically opposed to each other.  The Jesus of Roman Catholicism is "mystically" drawn down from His heavenly throne into the elements of the Eucharist, while the Jesus of the Bible remains at the right hand of God as the Sovereign King, Savior, Lord and Judge of the universe. The Jesus of Roman Catholicism is "re-presented," [2] [3] or, re-sacrificed all over again through the Roman Catholic Mass, "in an un-bloody manner," [4] whereas the Jesus of the Bible shed His blood and paid the redemption price for mankind "once for all time," never to be sacrificed again.[5] The Jesus of the Bible is God Almighty [6] and no priest on earth can turn Him into a bread wafer through Roman Catholic "Mystagogy." [7]  


Furthermore, the Pope blasphemously takes the place of Christ on earth, and he leads masses of humanity into Christianized Babylonian paganism through the worship of Mary, through 'Eucharistic Adoration,' through the Roman Catholic priesthood, through human effort based salvation, and much more.  Salvation through the Roman Catholic system comes through good works, the Church, re-sacrificing Christ and ingesting Him, so they believe.  Surely this is a different Jesus, a different spirt, and a different gospel than the Bible teaches. In fact, the Bible warns against such things.  


For over 500 years now there has been great doctrinal division between the Roman Catholic Church and Protestant Christians, or, Bible believing Christians who "protest" against the unbiblical and blasphemous Babylonian belief system that is dressed up as Christianity. Clearly, the two different belief systems have different Jesus's, but why no pastoral warnings about this on the K-WAVE Pastor’s Perspective Radio Program on November 10 and November 23, 2011.  Certainly a few simple statements from Pastor Chuck Smith, Don Stewart and Chuck Smith, Jr. would have sufficed.  Instead, Chuck Smith and Chuck Smith, Jr. are in agreement that it is OK for a born-again Christian to marry a Roman Catholic, and that God will work it out.


To the contrary, Paul the Apostle says the opposite.


"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty" (2 Cor. 6:14-18).


Also of note, are we to listen to Chuck Smith, Jr. whose opinion is clearly placed over and above the clear teaching of the Word of God as taught by Paul the Apostle? Chuck Smith, Jr. says, "I think the more important questions are, is he a good man and do they love each other?  Obviously these considerations are important things for marriage, but the Bible clearly says ""Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers..."  Why then does Chuck Smith, Jr. sideline the clear teaching of Scripture when a woman has called in and asked a very important question, and is expecting a very solid biblical answer from pastors.


Secondly, Chuck Smith, Don Stewart and Chuck Smith Jr. know that the Roman Catholic priesthood "preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached...another spirit," and "another gospel."  Why then do they give absolutely no warning whatsoever of the false gospel and danger of Roman Catholic doctrine and spirituality? The silence of these men on this issue, coupled with Greg Laurie's appearance with Roman Catholic Bishop Ricken, who performed the Roman Catholic sacrfice of the Mass at Lifest 2011, and the full acceptance of extreme Ecumenist Lt. General (U.S. Amy Ret.) William "Jerry" Boykin into Calvary Chapel leadership and prophecy conferences defies logic and cuts against sound biblical principles.


"Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.  But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.  For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him" (2 Corinthians 11:1-4).


Colossians 1:27-29 instructs that the man of God is to warn and teach, and that it is the Spirit of God that does this, through the yielded Christian.


"To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily" (Colossians 1:27-29).


At the end of the day, perhaps there are born-again believers who are caught in the deception of the Roman Catholic system.  For those wondering about what to do, God's Word commands, "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you" (2 Cor. 6:17), and "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her [Mystery Babylon], my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities (Rev. 18:4-5).





Links accessed 12/16/2011.

[1] A Catholic Life Blog, "Feast of the Most Precious Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ,"
[2] Fr. William G. Most, "The Sacrifice of the Mass,"
[3] Just For Catholics website, "The Mass: A Sacrifice for Sins,"
[4] Ibid (A Catholic Life Blog).


[5] Hebrews 9, 10.


[6] Hebrews 1; Colossians 1; John 8; Revelation 1.


[7] "Mystagogy" is defined in the online Free Dictionary as "1. One who prepares candidates for initiation into a mystery cult. 2. One who holds or spreads mystical doctrines.", Read more about Eucharistic Mystagogy in an article entitled "Eucharistic Mystagogy," by Dr. Gerard F. Baumbach. Baumbach is the Director at the Center for Catechetical Initiatives. He is also Concurrent Professor, Department of Theology University of Notre Dame. Baumbach's article is published online through the St. Austin Catholic Parish,



For more information see:


Another Jesus: The Eucharistic Christ and the New Evangelization - Roger oakland

Roman Catholicism: A Closer Look - SRN

Proclaiming The Gospel - Mike Gendron

Reaching Catholics For Christ - Selected articles

The Two Babylons - Alexander Hislop

50 Years In The Church of Rome - Charles Chiniquy

Resources on Catholicism here at The Berean Call

The New Evangelization and Ecumenical Apostasy at Understand The Times

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